Foreign Cyber Warfare Dods Next Big Fight Free Speech Vs Inf

That's happening. And I do I do I really do think there's going to be an element of the Department of Defense involved within the next few years in very short order at some point in time that has to it. The DOD has to address the fact that there are bad actors conducting covert action digitally within the United States that don't have to be here. And, you know, the cyberspace is an area. It's a ground. It has to be occupied. It has to be controlled. And I know people are going to scream and yell and say, oh, well, what about free speech? We're not talking about that. We're talking about true covert action in the United States being being done digitally through micro targeting and through. All right. So I'm going to push back on you in this so I can understand what you're saying, because I'm a big proponent of free speech. It's my job to tolerate, you know, your real right to say what you want to say. But covert action is a different thing. But I don't know where the line is. So when does your ability to create something change to covert action? I think the ability is, A, is that message being influenced by a foreign entity? Is the person that's creating the message being influenced by the foreign entity to create the covert action within the populace of the United States, to create the influence that develops our path, that develops how our country runs and how it makes decisions? Because if you have this digital covert action platform, that exists. It will be exploited. It will be weaponized. Everything is weaponized till something better can be weaponized. That's just a fact. And the biggest threat that I see to the United States in and of itself is, and we've fallen into this conversation because of the stuff you were saying, when you were saying how people don't understand what's happening in Syria and the Kurds, everything else. And I said, yes, that is a device. That's a device used specifically to influence people on this end. Um, That gets done over and over and over again. So where is the line? I think where the line is, is it American having a conversation with an American about and it's a free speech issue or is it a foreign entity trying to stir some shit up? Yeah. Yeah. It's a tough thing to sort out. And then the other thing is, is cyber has no borders. Cyber has no borders. Right, right. Well, this is this is the interesting question, right? Because I know that, you know, folks that do psyop, you guys have a lot of restriction because you have to. You can't just do what you want to do. But then again, you guys can't do anything because you're so restricted. But is DOD the agent that does this stuff or is it FBI? And, you know, if we're going to try to figure these things out. Does the FBI need an even bigger presence for cyber? Because we always want to put shit on the FBI. But, you know, again, all of these things cost money. So how many new agents do you need to make this happen? You know, I think it the reason I say FBI, I mean, I don't know. Maybe it is FBI. I'm not that smart. But I do know that there will have to be a greater interface regardless of what agency it is. I say BOD because it is a covert action would be that way. There would be a military response to that. That's how it would be. Because the response to that would have to be a response to a foreign entity, which I think would fall DOD. But I don't know who's going to do it, and I don't know how it's going to get accomplished, but I can tell you that it is a definite... I think it's already here. I think we're all kind of silly not thinking it's already here. It's here. We're all being influenced and who's influencing us. And no, do I think the Russian collusion and all sorts of stuff? No, wrong vein, not even going down there. What I'm talking about is true campaigns. I mean, look at QAnon. That's a campaign. That's a rumor campaign. That's a whisper campaign. That's what that is. It's digital. It's global. It's multi-ethnic. It's multicultural. It's global. It's war. I mean, it's everywhere and it's all pushing people to a different message and it's getting people to pay attention to one speaker that is contra of what the national or public media has been. So we're taking things on a totally new platform yet again. At what point in time do we look at and say, Hey, listen, cyber is an area with no, is a land with no borders, but it affects my land inside this border. Right. How do we, How do you know? Nobody thought about, you know, oh, it's great. We're going to connect the world. Hey, that's great. I'm all for connecting the world. But what happens again? Everything is weaponized until something better can be weaponized. This is now weaponized. What do we do now? Yeah. Well, and the other thing is, is what can we do now? You know, we have a Congress that won't legislate and we have a president that divides us instantly and The second we raise our hand and say anything, it's like we all disagree with someone. And again, we went from, gosh, I hate to even do this. The left candidates, all talking negatively about long wars because they want to stop those. Because somehow they see President Trump as being a long war fan. Although of the last five presidents, he's the most dove president. person out of all of them. And then now a lot of those same people, the exact same people are saying, we shouldn't turn our backs on the Kurds. It did at some point, we have to stop all that nonsense. And whether you're conservative, or you're liberal, or you're in the middle, like I am, you know, we need more of us going in the same direction. And I don't hear a lot of that talk from the folks that are going to lead us because it doesn't pay the bills. So I suppose, you We've been to places where politics are way more complicated than they are here. People are like, more parties. Okay, great. Well, Iraq had 50-plus parties. How sweet is it there? And that was a huge complaint. Like when we were doing atmospherics on the people, we'd say, what is the biggest threat to Iraq? Things like that. Those were the questions. And they would say, there's too many parties. There's too many parties. And the parties caused the fighting. That's what they would say. The parties caused the fight. And I'm like, wait a minute, you guys, we just pulled this dictator out of a fucking hole. And now you're telling me there's too many parties. You know, I mean, even in that very dynamic environment, they didn't want to go back to a dictator, but they didn't want all the parties. So again, these things have to get sorted out over time. I think Iraq will be an easier issue to deal with. Um, I think a lot of things over there would be an easier thing to deal with in the United States than our own politics right now. And the funny thing about Trump, if you look at me talking about being a dove, Trump is, if you go, I'm not talking Rossboro, as soon as I say Reform Party, everybody says, oh, Rossboro. I'm not talking about Rossboro, but if you go to Wikipedia and you look up the Reform Party and you read that very detailed and they talk, there's tenets of the Reform Party. One of them is Big Ten. There's all these different names. If you look at that, you will see that Trump is not following anything but his Republican Party. He is a Republican following the Reform Party platform to a T. And so now here comes the next question. Is there going to be a new party introduced into the United States? Yeah, I mean, I don't know that that serves our purposes. I understand why we think we want it, but that means that most of us will hate the outcome every time. And that hate doesn't have an outlet. And, oh, man, things get nasty. Let's get away from this particular topic. I agree with you. Because we're not going to solve it. No, it's not. But you know what you and I just did? You and I just talked about something that nobody else is talking about. And people don't do that on air anymore. Everybody parrots somebody else. And we just talked about something that was not parroted. It wasn't something else. It's just And the cop and people are going to have to actually engage their brain and not engage the psyop. They've been trained to fuck the, to, to, to think when they, when they listen, when they listen to that last piece of the conversation, really cool digital covert action in the United States by foreign, you know? Yeah, really, really, really go look up some of these terms. Cause this is where we're at people. This is where we're really at while everybody's looking at the other stuff. Well, and, and understand that like, this is all done with the money motive too. You know, everybody's trying to gather power and money. And so we do things like this is why president Trump is great. He's great for business. You know, it's almost like this self-fulfilling prophecy of like the left hates him, the right loves him. They all, they all pimp him out to make more money, which, you know, which helps the economy. So long as we're all buying cars and ignoring, ignoring, you know, that fact that we're not dealing with anything, I guess we're all fine. And I'm not afraid of the topic, you know, on politics. I just, you know, I, I want to move things on. I get, I get, I get worn out on it to be honest. Yeah. Yeah. I am. I am, I am all about moving on. I just wanted to thank you for the, having the ability and for having the desire to have a show where people can really just have a conversation. It's not like there's questions one through 10. I researched you on the internet and let, Let's cover the same SEO. Let's cover the same SEO that everybody else does. No, don't act like you know me because you read about me on the internet. Let's, okay, learn about me, but then let's have a real conversation because if we all stay on the same topics, we're never going to grow. And those topics may or may not be, shall I say, real. Well, let me just put it to this way. And my audience is worldwide. I've got people in France that love the show. And I love France. I can't wait to go again. So, you know, I'm trying to provide. a perspective I want to I want to really offer your perspective like we're gonna I'm working on having a very high level Kurdish guy on the show because what I don't hear when people yammer on about Kurdistan I don't hear actual Kurds I hear people that are Kurds that maybe live in the states I'm talking a guy that's involved in day to day Kurdish things and you know If you know anything about Kurdistan at all, there's a lot of factions within Kurdistan on what to do and how to proceed. It's not my job to figure that out. It's my job to tease out the best of that person. And when they talk about their perspective, that's what matters. It doesn't look their perspective isn't wrong. How they analyze it, how they execute off that vision. Sure, we can question that. But what they see and experience and think that's them. And if I'm able to provide those perspectives, then we all can go, you know what? Actually, we just had a show. I had an SF guy named Herb on Herb Thompson. And we were talking about a mountain. You know, don't make a mountain out of a molehill. And I'm like, every time someone says that, I think let's go the other way. And there's two aspects of this. Don't make a mountain into a molehill. Like, don't. underestimate a huge challenge. And two, don't put all of your effort carving a mountain down into a molehill size because you're probably fucking wasting your time. It's all about this. What the hell are you going to do with the molehill? Yeah. Mission accomplished. Now what? You know, so we did all this, the shaving of a mountain. What do we do now with the molehill? Yeah, you're right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then also taking on like the Taliban, like, yeah, we'll just do this, this, this. Will you? You know, like that's taking a mountain and making it a mohill like no, that's just really fucking hard. Oh, really hard. Really hard. Yeah, really hard. Again, takes a generation. It takes a generation. It takes a lot of occupation. It takes it takes a lot, a lot of things for a long, long time.